tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post5888433679459658804..comments2023-12-21T04:56:50.986-08:00Comments on BizarroBlog: Thanks for GivingPirarohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02340738828876740970noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-56943649125211477362009-12-11T17:12:28.909-08:002009-12-11T17:12:28.909-08:00It gets tiring listening to the same story over an...It gets tiring listening to the same story over and over. White man took our land! White man took our land!<br /><br />Natives fought and killed each other all the time before the Europeans ever set foot on North American soil.<br /><br />Pretty much every race (white, native, etc)of that era was ignorant and violent. The whites just had the upper hand in terms of numbers and technology. Power corrupts so I'm sure the natives may have done the same thing if the roles were reversed.<br /><br />In Canada, we have a specific tribe protesting over land claims and it was revealed that the land they were claiming was actually stolen from another tribe they killed.<br /><br />We were all morons back then! Get over it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-47720020400395321562009-12-08T07:42:40.035-08:002009-12-08T07:42:40.035-08:00behrmark:
Say what? Uber-consumerism isn't fr...behrmark:<br /><br />Say what? Uber-consumerism isn't free in any way. It forces you to consume your way into social status. You communicate who you are, what you think, what you do through consumerism. Even not caring about looks or status is communicated through your consumption. Even your body communicates what you consume. That's not free.<br /><br />Social, political and economic problems don't make you free either. There are countries with less of all of those, I come from one. I wouldn't necesairilly say I'm freer for it, I don't see how it translates. But you being the most free rings as true as your health care being the best.Janhttp://janbielecki.com/sketchbooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-14938851015839834572009-12-08T07:30:10.257-08:002009-12-08T07:30:10.257-08:00That was indeed enlightening for someone non-Ameri...That was indeed enlightening for someone non-American. Thanks giving is I guess one of the few things we Europeans still haven't adopted and given it's tradition we really shouldn't, as it doesn't have anything to do with us. And given your description I really really hope we don't.<br /><br />Halloween and your über fetisch for Christmas is more than enough.<br /><br />Anyway, keep being a voice of reason (veganism, anti-consumerism etc) in mainstream media! And where are all the climate jokes?<br /><br />Thanks!janbhttp://janbielecki.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-10104754721585846922009-11-30T09:46:02.287-08:002009-11-30T09:46:02.287-08:00Does it help that we used every part of our geneti...Does it help that we used every part of our genetically modified bird? I even used the bones to fashion small weapons to kill the unbelievers.Fryewerkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13956426025889986112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-63225479213288636542009-11-28T14:18:42.859-08:002009-11-28T14:18:42.859-08:00Check your sexism.
I'm a gay man, and I cooke...Check your sexism.<br /><br />I'm a gay man, and I cooked almost the entirety of my grandmother's dinner for three generations of our extended family. My sister watched football, one of my brothers was helping me, and nobody in my family is fat (probably because we're not poor and can afford not to eat high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated palm kernel oil all the time)--Americans aren't lazy, they're overworked, too tired to exercise and eat shitty food which is the fault of collusion between dominant political factions and the food industry, which is no smarter about plant-based food than animal-based food. We had a blast, and I don't regret it. You're not half so funny as you think you are. Nearly all holidays commemorate things that were only good for a few select individuals, except for Veterans Day and Mother's Day. Shall we all wear sackcloth and ashes until the revolution comes? I think not.<br /><br />I've killed my own turkey and I'd do it again. I didn't do it this time because there were a lot of people involved, but I am so amused that you think having to kill animals for meat would make people vegetarian when in the past almost no one was vegetarian and almost everyone had to butcher their own meat. The truth is, 90% of vegan proselytisers are completely divorced from the realities of living among and with animals and this just goes to show that most of you are coming to this issue from the "I don't want to eat Thumper and Bambi!" place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-85385921339769479432009-11-28T10:05:23.867-08:002009-11-28T10:05:23.867-08:00my thanksgivings arent like that. I just hang out ...my thanksgivings arent like that. I just hang out with my family. We have big parties with people I rarely get to see, whom I love very much, we play music, and yes - we eat and drink more than usual - it's a party.<br /><br />Football? Rarely if at all. Shopping? Well, milk for the babies, and some wine perhaps. Working on Friday? Hell no.<br /><br />It's good to acknowledge historical oppression and it's absolutely essential to combat it in its present forms, which are many. But thanksgiving is the day my family (which is mainly secular) and friends have always gathered to celebrate life, love, friendship, the passing of time, etc.<br /><br />I think your piece is stereotyping a bit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-91864615881576669902009-11-28T09:22:38.330-08:002009-11-28T09:22:38.330-08:00i believe that adam sandler had the definitive say...i believe that adam sandler had the definitive say about thanksgiving...sorry dan:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PFERpWahZEdoug nicodemushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878123200691241584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-17815467621400718542009-11-27T22:17:26.135-08:002009-11-27T22:17:26.135-08:00And P.S. I'm part Native American. I can'...And P.S. I'm part Native American. I can't undo the past by being pissed and bitter about it. What I can and do do is send a few bucks when I can afford to places like this:<br /><br />http://www.naha-inc.org/Penny Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13154829540938334107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-49801163844218331942009-11-27T22:14:11.659-08:002009-11-27T22:14:11.659-08:00Wow.
I love you, but day-um. I really enjoy the ...Wow.<br /><br />I love you, but day-um. I really enjoy the holidays and I'm going to have fun even though I just read this blog entry.<br /><br />"We cannot cure the world of sorrow, but we can choose to live in joy." -Joseph Campbell<br /><br />Call me Pollyanna, but covering myself in ashes and sackcloth isn't going to fix anything.Penny Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13154829540938334107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-86593070933671440442009-11-27T21:15:14.961-08:002009-11-27T21:15:14.961-08:00Hey... as a direct descendant of "...a boatlo...Hey... as a direct descendant of "...a boatload of religious freaks." I have to say... I agree.<br /><br />But the true irony is that since my wife is 3/8 Native American, our kids (which are now 3/16th) are directly responsible for their own demise. I am sure my daughter will bring that up at her local DAR Columbus Day get together.Waldonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-45442144831474193652009-11-27T18:09:10.257-08:002009-11-27T18:09:10.257-08:00Actually, Quakers (Friends) tend to be the lighter...Actually, Quakers (Friends) tend to be the lighter side of Purityrannical religiousness.<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Society_of_Friends<br /><br />There have been some very good works done by Friends. I think Pilgrims may be more to the idea you're trying to advance. Funny that the word verification would be "inguns" for this comment. Well, maybe not all that funny.<br /><br />This year though was good for this American. All vegan,, organic, gourmet, mostly seasonal and local raw dinner with 34 others. Masses of yummy food and no weight gain or cruelty (to animal or human).<br /><br />Most good, least harm. We all do what we can. Keep writing and drawing. I'm grateful for your art. :)Bad Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301265731268400648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-61684701733059514332009-11-27T17:35:16.272-08:002009-11-27T17:35:16.272-08:00Dan! You nailed it!Dan! You nailed it!Jim Nadolnynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-34651094236618576142009-11-27T16:39:45.036-08:002009-11-27T16:39:45.036-08:00Hold on a minute Dan! While your description of wh...Hold on a minute Dan! While your description of what happened is basically accurate, you are confusing the Puritans with the Quakers. <br /><br />It was the Puritans who were the religious douches you describe, and who held the first Thanksgiving and set the stage for all the horrible carnage that followed. Sadly, they included a couple of my ancestors.<br /><br />The Oatmeal salesmen you mention, and picture, were Quakers. They started arriving about 50 years later, and after being viciously discriminated against, outlawed, and even murdered by those Puritan scumbags, finally went off to found Pennsylvania. The Quakers, while not perfect, were from the beginning pacifists, pro-Native American, and anti-slavery. Mostly, though religious, they were not douches.<br /><br />Ins spite of my Puritan ancestry I am 100% Quaker, and a bit sensitive about the differences between the two. Go ahead and check my facts, but please clarify.Paul Healeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18413107672731385548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-68420803257950331652009-11-27T15:34:05.462-08:002009-11-27T15:34:05.462-08:00i just love your comics, they are so amzing, and a...i just love your comics, they are so amzing, and awesome, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! whaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! awesomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!V(I)Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17842574203137544546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-59748365666667921752009-11-27T14:10:26.216-08:002009-11-27T14:10:26.216-08:00Oh! You terrible curmudgeon! You echo my sentime...Oh! You terrible curmudgeon! You echo my sentiments exactly, yet make me laugh! (Okay, there, you are Praised with Faint Damns. And loud Huzzahs. So there.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-14147807684435284852009-11-27T14:02:20.591-08:002009-11-27T14:02:20.591-08:00The Pilgrims weren't Quakers, you know.The Pilgrims weren't Quakers, you know.Neil J Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08852834659400991664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-83832630246537568382009-11-27T13:57:55.324-08:002009-11-27T13:57:55.324-08:00No complaints, but I have to point out that the Oa...No complaints, but I have to point out that the Oatmeal dude's supposed to be a Quaker, not a puritan, and Quakers are pretty legit. Just sayin'.S. G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07499540602501829768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-45021400549034168392009-11-27T13:34:06.751-08:002009-11-27T13:34:06.751-08:00George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclama...George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation<br /><br />Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of<br />Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly<br />to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress<br />have, by their joint committee, requested me to "recommend to the people of<br />the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by<br />acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty<br />God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a<br />form of government for their safety and happiness:"<br /><br />Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November<br />next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that<br />great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that<br />was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto<br />Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the<br />people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal<br />and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in<br />the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of<br />tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the<br />peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish<br />constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly<br />the national one now lately instituted for the civil and religious liberty<br />with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing<br />useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors<br />which He has been pleased to confer upon us.<br /><br />And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and<br />supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to<br />pardon our national and other transgressions; to enable us all, whether in<br />public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties<br />properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all<br />the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and<br />constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to<br />protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown<br />kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and<br />concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue,<br />and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto<br />all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be<br />best.<br /><br />Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D.<br />1789.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05977594123701929719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-36988019834854178252009-11-27T12:36:10.167-08:002009-11-27T12:36:10.167-08:00Wow! You spoke so badly about americans and Thanks...Wow! You spoke so badly about americans and Thanksgiving Day, that I'm proud of being brazilian... o_O<br /><br />Well, I love your texts and cartoons! Keep the good work! XD<br /><br />Hugs,<br />TatiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-35906871947672885892009-11-27T12:09:22.638-08:002009-11-27T12:09:22.638-08:00Funny, I've never been been to one like that. ...Funny, I've never been been to one like that. Gee, I thought it was just a gathering of family and friends coming together for some conversation and camaraderie. What an ambassador you are to your readers outside of the U.S.!Steve Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01704038650599294101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-28627002777090858912009-11-27T11:51:09.758-08:002009-11-27T11:51:09.758-08:00Dear Dan,
I'm a fan. I'm also an overweig...Dear Dan,<br /><br />I'm a fan. I'm also an overweight, meat-eating propogater of consumerism. Only, I'm not American, I'm Indian and a Muslim (we get an additional bonus of 600 years of religious history to ruin our lives in addition to the lies given to our Jew and Christian counterparts).<br />Today we celebrated, Eid-ul-adha (the day when prophet Abraham sacrifices a goat instead of his son.) and slaughtered thousands of goats all over the world as a ritual. Most of the meat is given away, but yet quite a lot is used at home to prepare elaborate meals akin to Thanksgiving dinners.<br /><br />I've only recently begun regretting being non-vegetarian on learning that it has worse effects than cruelty to non-human animals and health issues.<br /><br />I began reading Bizarro in a daily tabloid in Mumbai, India - Mumbai Mirror. Then I progressed to reading your blogs. Which is where my contemplation about veganism is moulding into a decision.<br /><br />I absolutely love meat. But I love the planet and myself more. This is going to a very difficult decision for me, with lot of family resistance, but I hope to turn vegan as soon as possible.<br /><br />So my sole purpose to write this is to say, 'Thanks, you give me the strength turn vegan and make my decisiom firmer.'<br /><br />I love your cartoons. :-)<br /><br />-Zaheen Bagasrawala.Zaheenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17796424582742154547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-81685291840439773222009-11-27T11:30:13.694-08:002009-11-27T11:30:13.694-08:00Despite the gluttony, the uber-consumerism, and ma...Despite the gluttony, the uber-consumerism, and many social/economic/political problems, it's still the most free of all nations. Just sayin'.behrmarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084607872643904884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-73486736610750770872009-11-27T10:52:08.732-08:002009-11-27T10:52:08.732-08:00I agree, bad Puritans, good Indians. Bad Europeans...I agree, bad Puritans, good Indians. Bad Europeans (ancient historywise). Good native Americans! Our country was founded on the backs of the poor and enslaved. Without indentured servant (poor Europeans hoping to escape the old world) and slave (Africans taken from their world), we probably wouldn't have the country we have today. It would be more like Europe. Maybe we would have nation health care and democracy too. Something to think about... I live in the part of the US that was colonized by Spain (Tejas) but given up in a war or something. Mexico kept it's poor native Americans around so that they could be enslaved (virtually) to be the peasants on the land owned by the rich. So Tejas would probably still be Mexican or Spanish territory. More to think about.Jodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07893113808078485167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-19572500780447869002009-11-27T10:48:33.831-08:002009-11-27T10:48:33.831-08:00No complaints - you couldn't have summed it up...No complaints - you couldn't have summed it up more succinctly. When the Constitutional Literalists (or "Far Right") claim that America was founded on basic, workable principles 400 years ago that shouldn't change in the face of the ever-changing modern era, what they leave out is the fact that the people who came to America were essentially England's religious rejects - it wasn't about religious freedom, it was about the fact that the Puritans were tired of being the butt and wanted to be the head. It amazes me that Puritanism (or "American Fundamentalism") is based on the concept that God hates everyone and it's just a matter of time before we end up in hell, so we may as well make the most out it ... by proving that we're already miserable so why send us to hell, dear lord?<br /><br />Anyhow, good post!Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7803930806872297256.post-62272381767480122702009-11-27T10:31:03.491-08:002009-11-27T10:31:03.491-08:00Perfect, just perfect!Perfect, just perfect!Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12230697167049682781noreply@blogger.com